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On Sunday, three backcountry skiers died in an avalanche in an out–of–bounds area at Stevens Pass: John Brenan, Chris Rudolph and Jim Jack. Also on Sunday, a snowboarder died in an avalanche at Snoqualmie Pass. As co–owner of Cascade Powder Cats in Leavenworth, Washington, Ryan Murray teaches people how to read the snow and stay safe from avalanches when they head out into the backcountry. Murray spoke with KUOW's Sara Lerner about how the ski community in Leavenworth is dealing with the deaths. And he explains what out–of–bounds means, exactly.